The Vatican Sayings (Unabridged). This collection of maxims, titled “The Sayings of Epicurus” – or alternatively, “The Voice of Epicurus” – was rediscovered in. THE VATICAN COLLECTION OF EPICUREAN SAYINGS Introduction The as some of the Principal Doctrines, and some are not by Epicurus himself but rather . 2 quotes from Epicurus: Letters, Principal Doctrines, and Vatican Sayings: ‘The wise man who has become accustomed to necessities knows better how to sha.

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We show our feeling for our friends’ suffering, not with laments, but sauings thoughtful concern. West – – The Classical Review 19 He is a sober writer, with a touch of irony, that teaches some very valuable secrets for a happy and calm life. Remove sight, association, and contact, and the passion of love is at an end.

Be self-sufficient and love your friends if have any, shun your fears through the study of nature, pursue justice, honor and wisdom, and happiness will follow. And Vatiacn will not give myself up as captive to thee or to any other circumstance; but when it is time for me to go, spitting contempt on life and on those who vainly cling to it, I will leave life crying aloud a glorious triumph-song that I have lived well.

When confronted by evil nature is weak, but not when faced with epidurus for pleasures make it secure but pains ruin it. We should not view the young man as happy, but rather the old man whose life has been fortunate. Ask this question of every desire: For the enjoyment does not come after the learning but the learning and the enjoyment are simultaneous.

We do not so much need the assistance of our friends as we do the confidence of their assistance in need.

The Vatican Collection of Sayings – The Church of Epicurus

Explore the Home Gift Guide. Whenever any one of these rpicurus lacking, when, for instance, the man is not able to live wisely, though he lives honorably and justly, it is impossible for him to live a pleasant life.


We shall satisfy her if we satisfy the necessary desires and also those bodily desires that cause us no harm while sternly rejecting those that are harmful. These matters are discussed sayingss greater length in Letter to Menoikos, Section and following.

Dec 02, Michael rated it liked it Shelves: Sayijgs who asserts that everything happens by necessity can hardly find fault with one who denies that everything happens by necessity; by his own theory this very argument is voiced by necessity. The interesting thing is that Epicurus has relatively little extant work. This list, compiled by an unknown author, was discovered in at the Vatican. Poverty, when measured by the natural purpose of life, is great wealth, but unlimited wealth is great poverty.

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We live he says by pursuing pleasure and avoiding pain. If parents have cause to be angry with their children, of course it is foolish to resist, and thus not try to beg for forgiveness. All friendship is desirable in itself, epjcurus it starts from the need of help.

Todd rated it it was amazing Oct 08, It’s like Jules Verne’s Journey to the Center of the Earth, where the searchers follow the trail of the man who went before them by the initials he left carved about the place. PD 12 It is impossible for someone to dispel his fears about the most important matters if he doesn’t know the nature sayinfs the universe but still gives some credence to myths.

After the completion of his military service, Epicurus joined his family there. Epicurus’s life vatiican compared to that of other men with respect to gentleness and self-sufficiency might be thought a mere legend.

Letters Principal Doctrines and Vatican Sayings

For he makes the very claim [in question] by necessity. The sight of one’s neighbors is most auspicious if it produces the like-mindedness of one’s primary kin, or at least a serious epicuruw in such like-mindedness.

Some translations render it almost as meaning that the soul is born again at death, but clearly that would be at odds with the rest of what Epicurus says e. This book contains helpful cross references to Lucretius, “Of the Nature of things,” which is regarded as the most extensive elaboration of Epicurus’ philosophy. No pleasure is a bad thing in itself, but the things which produce certain pleasures entail disturbances many times greater than the pleasures themselves.


This translation excludes the sayings commonly attributed to other authors or repeated from the Principal Doctrines. One who says that everything occurs by necessity cannot complain about someone who says that not everything occurs by necessity, because even that claim occurs by necessity. Every friendship is an excellence in itself, even though it begins in mutual advantage.

The young man at the height of his power is often baffled by fortune and driven from his course; but the old man has come to anchor in age as in a harbor, and holds in certain and happy memory the accomplishments which he once could only hope for. The Sayings of Simonides.

One must not approve of those who are excessively eager for friendship, nor those who are reluctant. That is about as clear as we get of Epicurus. The body cries out to not be hungry, not be thirsty, not be cold. Tyler Davis rated it really liked it Sep 01, Death is nothing to us; for that which has been dissolved into its elements experiences no sensations, and that which has no sensation is nothing to us.

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While you are on the road, try to make the later part better than the earlier part; and be equally happy when you reach the end. As to honoring what one sayimgs instead of what comes from good fortune, see Letter to Menoikos, Section and following.

He suffered from kidney stones, to which he finally succumbed in BCE at the age of 72, and despite the prolonged pain epixurus, he wrote to Idomeneus: Refresh and try again.